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Why is it "pronunciation" and not "pronounciation"?

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Generally speaking, when adding a suffix to a word in English, while the last letter(s) may undergo changes to accommodate the addition, the rest of the word is left unchanged. As examples in that sentence alone – general/generally, speak/speaking, add/adding/addition, change/changes/unchanged.

The only exception off the top of my head is the word pronounce. Nearly all of its variations — pronouncing, pronounced, pronounceable, pronouncement — all maintain the spelling of the word, save for the final e. However, one of its noun forms is pronunciation, where the central ⟨ou⟩ vowel is swapped out for a ⟨u⟩. Is there a historical reason why specifically the word pronunciation has its central vowel changed, among all of the forms of the word pronounce? Are there any other words in English which exhibit this phenomenon for the same reason?

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A quick search gives a regular pattern in the form of trisyllabic laxing

Trisyllabic laxing, or trisyllabic shortening, is any of three processes in English in which tense vowels (long vowels or diphthongs) become lax (short monophthongs) if they are followed by two syllables the first of which is unstressed.

Pronounce -> pronunciation is one of the examples given in the article.

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nobodyImportant‭ wrote about 4 years ago · edited about 4 years ago

That's what I would say. But why the spelling changed? It could easily have been "pronounciation" with the new pronunciation caused by Trisyllabic Laxing. Why did the O get removed?

Moshi‭ wrote about 4 years ago

@DecapitatedSoul normally, you want the spelling of words to match their pronunciation.

Moshi‭ wrote about 4 years ago

The spelling never changed. People pronounced it as pronunciation, so people spelled it that way.

curiousdannii‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

What evidence do you have that this is actually what happened? Wiktionary's etymologies for both words show that they came from different French words, both of which were already short vowels. So don't we really need an explanation for how pronounce came to have a long vowel?