Communities

Writing
Writing
Codidact Meta
Codidact Meta
The Great Outdoors
The Great Outdoors
Photography & Video
Photography & Video
Scientific Speculation
Scientific Speculation
Cooking
Cooking
Electrical Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Judaism
Judaism
Languages & Linguistics
Languages & Linguistics
Software Development
Software Development
Mathematics
Mathematics
Christianity
Christianity
Code Golf
Code Golf
Music
Music
Physics
Physics
Linux Systems
Linux Systems
Power Users
Power Users
Tabletop RPGs
Tabletop RPGs
Community Proposals
Community Proposals
tag:snake search within a tag
answers:0 unanswered questions
user:xxxx search by author id
score:0.5 posts with 0.5+ score
"snake oil" exact phrase
votes:4 posts with 4+ votes
created:<1w created < 1 week ago
post_type:xxxx type of post
Search help
Notifications
Mark all as read See all your notifications »
Q&A

Comments on What grammatical category does "Weihnachten" fall into?

Post

What grammatical category does "Weihnachten" fall into?

+6
−0

The German word "Weihnachten" (Christmas) is an odd one. It's a neuter noun (das Weihnachten) even though it's based on a feminine one (die Nacht, night). The traditional Christmas greetings, "Frohe Weihnachten" or "Fröhliche Weihnachten," don't follow the rules for singular neuter nouns, though they'd make sense if it were a plural (think of the 12 days of Christmas). The plural of "Nacht," though, is "Nächte." Some German nouns add "-en" as a plural or for non-nominative singular cases, but that never happens with feminine nouns, and neuter nouns partially follow it only when they have certain endings (e.g., das Museum / die Museen). The dative plural for "Nacht" is "Nächten," but the umlaut is mandatory.

As a further complication, the combining form changes the "en" to "s" (Weihnachtsmarkt, Weihnachtsabend, and many others). The combining form of "Nacht" is just "Nacht-".

Does "Weihnachten" fall into some grammatical category that lets this all make sense, or is it a unique instance, built from dialects and archaic usage?

History
Why does this post require moderator attention?
You might want to add some details to your flag.
Why should this post be closed?

2 comment threads

DAS Weihnachten? (5 comments)
Found this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/3yqlqd/why_is_it_frohe_weihnachten_ins... (1 comment)
Found this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/3yqlqd/why_is_it_frohe_weihnachten_ins...
gmcgath‭ wrote 5 months ago

Found this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/3yqlqd/why_is_it_frohe_weihnachten_instead_of_frohes/

Part of the issue, it seems, is that "Weihnachten" is singular in some expressions and plural in others. There's also "Die Weihnacht," a feminine noun which (I think) follows the normal rules for nouns based on "Nacht." But even as a plural, "Weihnachten" doesn't follow the normal pluralization, which would be "Weihnächte."