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Q&A Does al-Asma'i's poem "صوت صفير البلبل" (the sound of the whistle of the bulbul) has a story to tell?

There's this famous story about al-Asma'i الأصمعي challenging the caliph abu Ja'afar al-Mansur أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memo...

0 answers  ·  posted 4y ago by Medi1saif‭  ·  edited 3y ago by Medi1saif‭

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#6: Nominated for promotion by user avatar Moshi‭ · 2022-08-04T16:32:57Z (over 2 years ago)
#5: Post edited by user avatar Medi1saif‭ · 2021-03-19T09:46:30Z (over 3 years ago)
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second and third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove by witnesses that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • The result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul).
  • Here's just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books or essays discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second and third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove by witnesses that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • The result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul).
  • Here's just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books or essays discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
  • Comment: Whether al-Asma'i really composed this poem or the reality of the story is not the subject of my question and I'd like to say that there are some doubts about that.
#4: Post edited by user avatar Medi1saif‭ · 2021-03-19T09:41:35Z (over 3 years ago)
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second and third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove by witnesses that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • The result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul).
  • Here's just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second and third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove by witnesses that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • The result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul).
  • Here's just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books or essays discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
#3: Post edited by user avatar Medi1saif‭ · 2020-08-28T07:42:12Z (about 4 years ago)
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second or third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • the result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul). Here just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second and third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove by witnesses that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • The result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul).
  • Here's just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
#2: Post edited by user avatar Medi1saif‭ · 2020-08-28T07:40:47Z (about 4 years ago)
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second or third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • the result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul). Here just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
  • There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second or third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
  • the result was the strange poem entitled:
  • [صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul). Here just an extract of the first 9 verses:
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1)
  • the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
  • Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Medi1saif‭ · 2020-08-28T07:40:25Z (about 4 years ago)
Does al-Asma'i's poem "صوت صفير البلبل" (the sound of the whistle of the bulbul) has a story to tell?
There's this famous story about [al-Asma'i](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Asma%CA%BFi) الأصمعي challenging the caliph [abu Ja'afar al-Mansur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mansur) أبو جعفر المنصور by composing a poem that is difficult to memorize, as the caliph himself used to memorize poems after the first hearing and he had both a slave and slave girl who could memorize it at second or third hearing and this way the caliph was able to prove that he already heard a poem poets might have composed.
the result was the strange poem entitled:  
[صوت صفير البلبل](https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%AA_%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%84) (sawtu safeere al-bulbuli/the sound of the whistle of the bulbul). Here just an extract of the first 9 verses:
![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/mVeo7LwYBmqCLTyTeXw1ujt1) 

the poem clearly has a rhym, but many rather strange compositions of words and repetitions etc. that may make memorizing it difficult, but at the end does it have a story to tell?
 
Are there any books discussing the meanings and hidden meanings of this poem?