Communities

Writing
Writing
Codidact Meta
Codidact Meta
The Great Outdoors
The Great Outdoors
Photography & Video
Photography & Video
Scientific Speculation
Scientific Speculation
Cooking
Cooking
Electrical Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Judaism
Judaism
Languages & Linguistics
Languages & Linguistics
Software Development
Software Development
Mathematics
Mathematics
Christianity
Christianity
Code Golf
Code Golf
Music
Music
Physics
Physics
Linux Systems
Linux Systems
Power Users
Power Users
Tabletop RPGs
Tabletop RPGs
Community Proposals
Community Proposals
tag:snake search within a tag
answers:0 unanswered questions
user:xxxx search by author id
score:0.5 posts with 0.5+ score
"snake oil" exact phrase
votes:4 posts with 4+ votes
created:<1w created < 1 week ago
post_type:xxxx type of post
Search help
Notifications
Mark all as read See all your notifications »
Q&A

Icelandic patronymic pronunciation

+2
−0

I find the pronunciation of Icelandic highly regular and predictable on the whole, but male patronymics continue to puzzle me. The suffix "-son" is consistently pronounced with an initial /ʃ/ rather than /s/, for example here. Also, and possibly related, I'm unable to tell why the "son of Jón" would be written as "Jónsson" rather just "Jónson".

What rules govern the spelling and pronunciation of the initial sound in the "-son" suffix?

Parallels in other North Germanic languages might be interesting, too, as long as they throw some light on modern Icelandic.

History
Why does this post require attention from curators or moderators?
You might want to add some details to your flag.
Why should this post be closed?

0 comment threads

1 answer

+5
−0

Regarding the two s in Jónsson, it is consistent across all North Germanic languages. It's simply the genitive case - the father's son.

That is: "Jón's son" rather than "Jón son" (indefinite article). Similarly, you'll have Jónsdóttir (Jón's daughter) and not "Jóndóttir".

From what I can tell (and this is speculation), single s "Jonson" spelling is some manner of Americanization, possibly the meaning of two s got lost along the way when US settlers from the Nordic countries adapted English as their native language.

As for the pronunciation, two s (or two of the same consonant in general) gives a shorter/sharper pronunciation. If not for that, you'd get "Jón son" with a slightly different and nonsensical meaning.

History
Why does this post require attention from curators or moderators?
You might want to add some details to your flag.

1 comment thread

General comments (2 comments)

Sign up to answer this question »