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Q&A What did the etymons of “on by + out, over, up” mean?

What did the etymons of "on by out", "on by up", "on by over" mean? Why did Old English tack and jam these different prepositions together? E.g. didn't ufan alone mean "above"? Why prefix...

0 answers  ·  posted 3y ago by PSTH‭

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#1: Initial revision by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-03-20T02:14:37Z (about 3 years ago)
What did the etymons of “on by + out, over, up” mean?
1. What did the etymons of  "on by out", "on by up", "on by over" mean? 

2. Why did Old English tack and jam these different prepositions together? E.g. didn't *ufan* alone mean "above"? Why prefix it with *a-* and *-b-* that appear to conribute nothing to the meaning? 


>### about  [OE]

>*About* in Old English times meant
‘around the outside of’; it did not develop its
commonest present-day meaning, ‘concerning’,
until the 13th century. In its earliest incarnation
it was *onbūtan*, a compound made up of *on* and
*būtan* ‘outside’ (this is the same word as modern
English *but*, which was itself originally a
compound, formed from the ancestors of by and
out – so broken down into its ultimate
constituents, **_about_ is _on by out_**).        
→ BUT, BY, OUT   

>### above [OE]

>As in the case of *about*, the *a-* in
*above* represents on and the *-b-* element
represents *by*; *above* (Old English *abufan*) is a
compound based on Old English *ufan*. This
meant both ‘on top’ and ‘down from above’; it is
related to *over*, and is probably descended from
a hypothetical West Germanic ancestor _*ufana_,
whose *uf-* element eventually became modern
English *up*. So in a sense, ***above* means ‘on by
up’ or ‘on by over’**.    
→ BY, ON, UP

*Word Origins* (2005 2e) by John Ayto. p 2.