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Q&A Why didn't the same one (ancestor) language preponderate over China, Japan, Korea?

Don't hesitate to revise my post, particularly if you want to add maps. I'm basically extending this question on Reddit to Chinese. Unquestionably China, Korea, Japan are much closer to each other...

1 answer  ·  posted 3y ago by TextKit‭  ·  last activity 3y ago by Jirka Hanika‭

#1: Initial revision by user avatar TextKit‭ · 2021-06-26T03:01:47Z (almost 3 years ago)
Why didn't the same one (ancestor) language preponderate over China, Japan, Korea?
Don't hesitate to revise my post, particularly if you want to add maps. I'm basically extending [this question on Reddit](https://redd.it/jl3t76) to Chinese. 


Unquestionably China, Korea, Japan are much closer to each other, than Iceland, Ireland vs. Bengal — the "polar opposite" [language borders of the Indo-European family](https://redd.it/gx2v9y). China and Korea share land borders.  The shortest  distance from Korea to Japan is 214 km, from Busan to Hakata. 


I'll analogize Chinese, Japanese, Korean to Latin and Latin's devolution into the Romance Languages. Where does my analogy fail? Korea and Japan adopted Chinese, the Chinese writing system, and culture. ["The Chinese *hanzi* is in fact Korean *hanja* and Japanese *kanji*"](https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-Chinese-Japanese-and-Korean-languages-so-similar/answer/Jay-Trang). I know about [Sino-Korean and Sino-Japanese words](https://redd.it/7vkrll), but [Modern Japanese utilizes  Chinese characters more explicitly and readily than Modern Korean](https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/q/3831). 
Similarly, Western Europe adopted Latin, the Latin writing system, and Roman culture.

Like the Roman Empire, China has been a military, economic, and social superpower that [influenced Korea, Japan, Vietnam](https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/tgv0b/eli5_the_common_origin_and_differentiation/c4mlz0f/). ["Korean and Japanese officials and intellectuals used Chinese for the official documentation, records and poems, just like British used [Norman] French in their courts for some time before their native “English” language could be widely accepted and used"](https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-Chinese-Japanese-and-Korean-languages-so-similar/answer/Jackson-Lee-79). It's reasonable to surmise that some ancestor of Chinese would've been a sprachbund and a lingua franca. 

Did the East Asians lack horses and wheeled vehicle technology of the Indo-Europeans? 



[Whether Koreanic and Japonic languages](https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/q/21405) share a common origin is [an outstanding question](https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/a/3688) —  but this is irrelevant, because even if they are related, the Sino-Tibetan language family is undoubtedly  distinguished and distinct from the Koreanic/Japonic language families. 

I read that the [Japanese migrated not from mainland China](https://old.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/28012v/japanese_and_korean_and_chinese_why_two/ci69tmt/), and "the Manchurians (related more the the Mongols and Turks than the Han Chinese) migrated to Korea, and then the Koreans crossed the straight into Japan".

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  [1]: https://i.stack.imgur.com/ESjOb.jpg