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Q&A What semantic notions underlie the legal meaning of 'vest' — with its original meanings of 'robe', 'gown'? [duplicate]

How does the legal meaning of 'vest' (quoted first below) semantically appertain to its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown' (quoted second)? VESTING the satisfaction of all the requirements...

0 answers  ·  posted 2y ago by PSTH‭  ·  closed as duplicate 2y ago by Monica Cellio‭

#8: Question closed by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2022-03-01T03:27:03Z (about 2 years ago)
#7: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-02-24T05:33:32Z (about 2 years ago)
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' (quoted first below) semantically appertain to its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown' (quoted second)?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' (quoted first below) semantically appertain to its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown' (quoted second)?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
  • >## [The Meanings of 'Vest'](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/invest-word-history)
  • >
  • >It’s right there, hiding in plain sight: the [_vest_](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vest) in _investment_. The oldest use of _vest_ in English referred to a “robe” or “gown,” such as those worn in ancient Greece and Rome—logical enough, since the ultimate root of _vest_ is the Latin word _vestis_ (“garment”). The word traveled the Renaissance route from Italian (_vesta_) to French (_veste_) to English in the early 1600s. Its modern meaning, “a sleeveless garment for the upper body usually worn over a shirt,” was in use by the late 1600s.
  • >
  • >_Vest_ is also a verb in English, but a funny thing happened in the Middle Ages to this Latin-based word: it jumped in meaning from simply “to clothe” to the more bureaucratic definition of “to give (someone) the legal right or power to do something or to own land or property.” This meaning solidifies a metaphorical use of “to vest” in Latin that was closer to “to surround” or “to adorn,” as in: “adorned with the robes of office.” The official robes worn by clergy were the symbols of their positions and, perhaps unsurprisingly, called [_vestments_](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vestment). Wearing these clothes was a public claim on power, salary, and status.
  • >
  • >This is why we sometimes hear the phrase “by the powers vested in me.” The use of [_vested_](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vested) as an adjective meaning “fully and unconditionally guaranteed as a legal right, benefit, or privilege” (as in “fully vested”) came into the language in the 1700s.
#6: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-01-22T20:18:05Z (about 2 years ago)
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' semantically appertain its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown'?
  • What semantic notions underlie the legal meaning of 'vest' — with its original meanings of 'robe', 'gown'?
#5: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-01-22T20:17:36Z (about 2 years ago)
  • I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of its nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' (quoted first below) semantically appertain to its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown' (quoted second)?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
#4: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-11-13T01:46:53Z (over 2 years ago)
  • I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of the inexpert, nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
  • I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of its nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
#3: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-11-13T01:42:49Z (over 2 years ago)
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' semantically appertain the original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown'?
  • How does the legal meaning of 'vest' semantically appertain its original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown'?
#2: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-11-13T01:36:07Z (over 2 years ago)
  • I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of the inexpert, nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste _from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base *wes-, which also produced
  • English wear. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as_ divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment _[13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture _[14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
  • I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of the inexpert, nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them?
  • >VESTING
  • >the satisfaction of all the requirements
  • necessary for a right to property to
  • become unconditional; the completion of
  • the transfer of property to a person, so that
  • they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
  • property.
  • [*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column.
  • >### vest [17]
  • >_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
  • for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
  • application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
  • under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
  • England who introduced the fashion, and the
  • first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
  • Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666:
  • >
  • >>‘The King hath
  • yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
  • setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
  • know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
  • thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
  • English vest for ‘waist-coat’.
  • >
  • >The British
  • application of the word to an undergarment for
  • the upper part of the body did not emerge until
  • the 19th century. The word came via French
  • _veste_ and Italian _veste_ from Latin _vestis_
  • ‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
  • European base _*wes-_, which also produced
  • English _wear_. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
  • originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
  • an office by dressing in the appropriate
  • garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
  • as well as _divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
  • words from the same source include _travesty_,
  • _vestment_ [13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture_ [14].
  • John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-11-13T01:33:48Z (over 2 years ago)
How does the legal meaning of 'vest' semantically appertain the original lay meanings of 'robe', 'gown'? 
I first quote the legal meaning of _vest_ in law, then the etymology of the inexpert, nonspecialist meanings. What semantic notions underlie them? 

>VESTING  
>the satisfaction of all the requirements
necessary for a right to property to
become unconditional; the completion of
the transfer of property to a person, so that
they can begin to enjoy the rights in that
property.

[*Pearce & Stevens' Trusts and Equitable Obligations* 7 edn 2018](https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pearce-and-stevens-trusts-and-equitable-obligations-9780198745495), page lxix, Right Column. 


>### vest [17]   
>_Vest_ was originally used fairly generally
for a ‘robe’ or ‘gown’. Its earliest specific
application was to a ‘sleeveless jacket worn
under an outer coat’. It was Charles II of
England who introduced the fashion, and the
first reference to _vest_ in this sense is in Samuel
Pepy’s diary for 8 October 1666: 
>
>>‘The King hath
yesterday, in Council, declared his resolution for
setting a fashion in clothes … It will be a vest, I
know not well how; but it is to teach the nobility
thrift’. The direct descendant of this is American
English vest for ‘waist-coat’. 
>
>The British
application of the word to an undergarment for
the upper part of the body did not emerge until
the 19th century. The word came via French
_veste_ and Italian _veste _from Latin _vestis_
‘clothing, garment’. This went back to the Indo-
European base *wes-, which also produced
English wear. The derived Latin verb _vestīre_
originally meant ‘clothe’, and hence ‘induct into
an office by dressing in the appropriate
garments’. It has given English its verb _vest_ [15],
as well as_ divest_ [17] and invest. Other English
words from the same source include _travesty_,
_vestment _[13], _vestry_ [14], and _vesture _[14].

John Ayto, *Word Origins* (2005 2e), p 522 Right column.