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Q&A What semantic notions underlie "pull, drag" (in tractō) 🡒 "negotiate, bargain" (in 'treat')?

Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from tractō. I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because these sen...

1 answer  ·  posted 3y ago by PSTH‭  ·  last activity 3y ago by PSTH‭

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#3: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-01-18T22:23:43Z (almost 3 years ago)
  • Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from Latin _tractō_.
  • I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because these senses of _tractō_ appertain to "negotiate, bargain". Negotiation and bargaining usually require discussion.
  • > [treat (v.)](https://www.etymonline.com/word/treat#etymonline_v_16925 "Origin and meaning of treat")
  • >
  • > c. 1300, **"negotiate, bargain, deal with,"** from Old French traitier "deal with, act toward; set forth (in speech or writing)" (12c.), from Latin tractare "manage, handle, deal with, conduct oneself toward," originally "drag about, tug, haul, pull violently," frequentative of trahere (past participle tractus) "to pull, draw" (see [tract](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tract?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_16846 "Etymology, meaning and definition of tract ") (n.1)).
  • >
  • > Meaning "to entertain with food and drink without expense to the recipient by way of compliment or kindness (or bribery)" is recorded from c. 1500. Sense of "deal with, handle, or develop in speech or writing" (early 14c.) led to the use in medicine "to attempt to heal or cure, to manage in the application of remedies" (1781).
  • _Oxford Latin Dictionary_ (2012 2 ed), pp 2154-5.
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/87BLhUCZXh2PeubGZYKehPzR)
  • Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from _tractō_.
  • I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because these senses of _tractō_ appertain to "negotiate, bargain". Negotiation and bargaining usually require discussion.
  • > [treat (v.)](https://www.etymonline.com/word/treat#etymonline_v_16925 "Origin and meaning of treat")
  • >
  • > c. 1300, **"negotiate, bargain, deal with,"** from Old French traitier "deal with, act toward; set forth (in speech or writing)" (12c.), from Latin tractare "manage, handle, deal with, conduct oneself toward," originally "drag about, tug, haul, pull violently," frequentative of trahere (past participle tractus) "to pull, draw" (see [tract](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tract?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_16846 "Etymology, meaning and definition of tract ") (n.1)).
  • >
  • > Meaning "to entertain with food and drink without expense to the recipient by way of compliment or kindness (or bribery)" is recorded from c. 1500. Sense of "deal with, handle, or develop in speech or writing" (early 14c.) led to the use in medicine "to attempt to heal or cure, to manage in the application of remedies" (1781).
  • _Oxford Latin Dictionary_ (2012 2 ed), pp 2154-5.
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/87BLhUCZXh2PeubGZYKehPzR)
#2: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-01-18T22:20:36Z (almost 3 years ago)
  • What semantic notions underlie these 2 superficially unrelated senses — pull, drag (in tractō) 🡒 negotiate, bargain (in 'treat')?
  • What semantic notions underlie "pull, drag" (in tractō) 🡒 "negotiate, bargain" (in 'treat')?
  • Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from Latin _tractō_.
  • I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because those senses of _tractō _are approaching "negotiate, bargain". Indubitably, negotiation and bargaining usually require discussion.
  • > [treat (v.)](https://www.etymonline.com/word/treat#etymonline_v_16925 "Origin and meaning of treat")
  • >
  • > c. 1300, **"negotiate, bargain, deal with,"** from Old French traitier "deal with, act toward; set forth (in speech or writing)" (12c.), from Latin tractare "manage, handle, deal with, conduct oneself toward," originally "drag about, tug, haul, pull violently," frequentative of trahere (past participle tractus) "to pull, draw" (see [tract](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tract?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_16846 "Etymology, meaning and definition of tract ") (n.1)).
  • >
  • > Meaning "to entertain with food and drink without expense to the recipient by way of compliment or kindness (or bribery)" is recorded from c. 1500. Sense of "deal with, handle, or develop in speech or writing" (early 14c.) led to the use in medicine "to attempt to heal or cure, to manage in the application of remedies" (1781).
  • _Oxford Latin Dictionary_ (2012 2 ed), pp 2154-5.
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/87BLhUCZXh2PeubGZYKehPzR)
  • Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from Latin _tractō_.
  • I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because these senses of _tractō_ appertain to "negotiate, bargain". Negotiation and bargaining usually require discussion.
  • > [treat (v.)](https://www.etymonline.com/word/treat#etymonline_v_16925 "Origin and meaning of treat")
  • >
  • > c. 1300, **"negotiate, bargain, deal with,"** from Old French traitier "deal with, act toward; set forth (in speech or writing)" (12c.), from Latin tractare "manage, handle, deal with, conduct oneself toward," originally "drag about, tug, haul, pull violently," frequentative of trahere (past participle tractus) "to pull, draw" (see [tract](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tract?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_16846 "Etymology, meaning and definition of tract ") (n.1)).
  • >
  • > Meaning "to entertain with food and drink without expense to the recipient by way of compliment or kindness (or bribery)" is recorded from c. 1500. Sense of "deal with, handle, or develop in speech or writing" (early 14c.) led to the use in medicine "to attempt to heal or cure, to manage in the application of remedies" (1781).
  • _Oxford Latin Dictionary_ (2012 2 ed), pp 2154-5.
  • ![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/87BLhUCZXh2PeubGZYKehPzR)
#1: Initial revision by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2022-01-18T22:12:57Z (almost 3 years ago)
What semantic notions underlie these 2 superficially unrelated senses — pull, drag (in tractō) 🡒 negotiate, bargain (in 'treat')?
Etymonline below blazons the sense of "negotiate, bargain" in treat. Please see the green line for the sense of "pull, drag" from Latin _tractō_. 

I added the red lines beside 8(b) and 9, because those senses of _tractō _are approaching "negotiate, bargain". Indubitably, negotiation and bargaining usually require discussion. 

> [treat (v.)](https://www.etymonline.com/word/treat#etymonline_v_16925 "Origin and meaning of treat")
> 
> c. 1300, **"negotiate, bargain, deal with,"** from Old French traitier "deal with, act toward; set forth (in speech or writing)" (12c.), from Latin tractare "manage, handle, deal with, conduct oneself toward," originally "drag about, tug, haul, pull violently," frequentative of trahere (past participle tractus) "to pull, draw" (see [tract](https://www.etymonline.com/word/tract?ref=etymonline_crossreference#etymonline_v_16846 "Etymology, meaning and definition of tract ") (n.1)).  
>   
> Meaning "to entertain with food and drink without expense to the recipient by way of compliment or kindness (or bribery)" is recorded from c. 1500. Sense of "deal with, handle, or develop in speech or writing" (early 14c.) led to the use in medicine "to attempt to heal or cure, to manage in the application of remedies" (1781).

_Oxford Latin Dictionary_ (2012 2 ed), pp 2154-5. 

![Image alt text](https://languages.codidact.com/uploads/87BLhUCZXh2PeubGZYKehPzR)