Communities

Writing
Writing
Codidact Meta
Codidact Meta
The Great Outdoors
The Great Outdoors
Photography & Video
Photography & Video
Scientific Speculation
Scientific Speculation
Cooking
Cooking
Electrical Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Judaism
Judaism
Languages & Linguistics
Languages & Linguistics
Software Development
Software Development
Mathematics
Mathematics
Christianity
Christianity
Code Golf
Code Golf
Music
Music
Physics
Physics
Linux Systems
Linux Systems
Power Users
Power Users
Tabletop RPGs
Tabletop RPGs
Community Proposals
Community Proposals
tag:snake search within a tag
answers:0 unanswered questions
user:xxxx search by author id
score:0.5 posts with 0.5+ score
"snake oil" exact phrase
votes:4 posts with 4+ votes
created:<1w created < 1 week ago
post_type:xxxx type of post
Search help
Notifications
Mark all as read See all your notifications »
Q&A

Post History

60%
+1 −0
Q&A How can fulsome constitute "a case of ironic understatement"?

Any understatement could be unintentional, or it could be motivated by pragmatic reasons such as hesitation to bring up a controversial point. However, more often than not, blatant or ridiculously...

posted 2y ago by Jirka Hanika‭

Answer
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Jirka Hanika‭ · 2022-06-21T17:37:07Z (over 2 years ago)
Any understatement could be unintentional, or it could be motivated by pragmatic reasons such as hesitation to bring up a controversial point.  

However, more often than not, blatant or ridiculously formed understatements are used ironically; and the irony very often concerns the understated quantity itself, indicating an absurdly *high* degree of that quantity.

"Fulsome" (originally spelt "fulsom") *might* count as ridiculously formed[^1].  As you observed in your point #4, "full" expresses the absolute fullness, while the suffix "-some" indicates a degree, contradicting the fullness.  The absurdly high degree of that quantity could then be "over-full", "over-satiated", with negative connotations.  That meaning is given as one of the possible/historical meanings in your reference - which would mean that the irony would be getting conventionalized and lexicalized over a part of the word's history.  The hypothesized irony could thus explain the negative connotations behind the sense "over-satiated".

However, perhaps we don't need to invoke irony to explain why "fulsome" sometimes acquires positive connotations and other times negative connotations.  [This lexicographer's lament](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/fulsome#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20the,an%20etymological%20root%20is%20incorrect.) offers an alternate possibility that "fulsome" would tend to have positive connotations when associated with "full", and negative connotations when associated with "foul"[^2].  We all learned to treat "fulsome" as a single word with several meanings, but its etymology could involve an uneasy merger of two homonyms.

[^1]: Personally, I don't find anything ridiculous about the modern expression "rather full", and I'm not convinced that mid-13th century "fulsom" should be perceived as ridiculously formed at all.

[^2]: In [Scottish English](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foulsome), the spellings are (optionally) kept separate.