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Q&A Why did linguists choose 'Patient' (noun) to denote this Thematic Role?

        THEMES and PATIENTS are rather similar, and not all linguists distinguish between these roles. A THEME typically moves from one location or one person to another, like the letter in (31...

1 answer  ·  posted 2y ago by PSTH‭  ·  edited 2y ago by Keelan‭

#4: Post edited by user avatar Keelan‭ · 2021-12-24T00:23:06Z (over 2 years ago)
  • Why did linguisticians choose 'Patient' (noun) to denote this Thematic Role?
  • Why did linguists choose 'Patient' (noun) to denote this Thematic Role?
>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; THEMES and PATIENTS are rather similar, and not all linguists distinguish between
these roles. A THEME typically moves from one location or one person to another,
like *the letter* in (31). A PATIENT (or undergoer), like *the window* in (35), is physically
affected by the verb’s action – so the window gets broken. A subject can also
be a PATIENT, as with *the flowers* in (34): by wilting, the fl owers undergo a physical
change of state, but they certainly don’t deliberately wilt, so that noun phrase is not
the AGENT. 

Maggie Tallerman, *Understanding Syntax* (2020 5 edn), p 49. 

1. How's this sense of Semantic Role  related to the lay 2021 English sense of 'patient', i.e. a ["suffering, injured, or sick person under medical treatment"](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=patient)? 

2. Why did linguisticians pick 'patient' to denote this Theta Role? Why not pick 'undergoer' that would be less ambiguous, polysemous, and thus less baffling, than 'patient'?
#3: Post edited by user avatar Moshi‭ · 2021-12-23T09:13:25Z (over 2 years ago)
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#2: Post edited by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-12-23T05:43:04Z (over 2 years ago)
  • What motivated linguisticians' word choice of 'Patient' (noun) in syntax?
  • Why did linguisticians choose 'Patient' (noun) to denote this Thematic Role?
  • >&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; THEMES and PATIENTS are rather similar, and not all linguists distinguish between
  • these roles. A THEME typically moves from one location or one person to another,
  • like *the letter* in (31). A PATIENT (or undergoer), like *the window* in (35), is physically
  • affected by the verb’s action – so the window gets broken. A subject can also
  • be a PATIENT, as with *the flowers* in (34): by wilting, the fl owers undergo a physical
  • change of state, but they certainly don’t deliberately wilt, so that noun phrase is not
  • the AGENT.
  • Maggie Tallerman, *Understanding Syntax* (2020 5 edn), p 49.
  • 1. How's this linguistics sense related to the lay 2021 English meaning of 'patient', i.e. a ["suffering, injured, or sick person under medical treatment"](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=patient)?
  • 2. Why did linguisticians pick 'patient' to denote this concept? Why not pick 'undergoer'?
  • >&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; THEMES and PATIENTS are rather similar, and not all linguists distinguish between
  • these roles. A THEME typically moves from one location or one person to another,
  • like *the letter* in (31). A PATIENT (or undergoer), like *the window* in (35), is physically
  • affected by the verb’s action – so the window gets broken. A subject can also
  • be a PATIENT, as with *the flowers* in (34): by wilting, the fl owers undergo a physical
  • change of state, but they certainly don’t deliberately wilt, so that noun phrase is not
  • the AGENT.
  • Maggie Tallerman, *Understanding Syntax* (2020 5 edn), p 49.
  • 1. How's this sense of Semantic Role related to the lay 2021 English sense of 'patient', i.e. a ["suffering, injured, or sick person under medical treatment"](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=patient)?
  • 2. Why did linguisticians pick 'patient' to denote this Theta Role? Why not pick 'undergoer' that would be less ambiguous, polysemous, and thus less baffling, than 'patient'?
#1: Initial revision by user avatar PSTH‭ · 2021-12-23T05:33:56Z (over 2 years ago)
What motivated linguisticians' word choice of 'Patient' (noun) in syntax?
>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; THEMES and PATIENTS are rather similar, and not all linguists distinguish between
these roles. A THEME typically moves from one location or one person to another,
like *the letter* in (31). A PATIENT (or undergoer), like *the window* in (35), is physically
affected by the verb’s action – so the window gets broken. A subject can also
be a PATIENT, as with *the flowers* in (34): by wilting, the fl owers undergo a physical
change of state, but they certainly don’t deliberately wilt, so that noun phrase is not
the AGENT. 

Maggie Tallerman, *Understanding Syntax* (2020 5 edn), p 49. 

1. How's this linguistics sense related to the lay 2021 English meaning of 'patient', i.e. a ["suffering, injured, or sick person under medical treatment"](https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=patient)? 

2. Why did linguisticians pick 'patient' to denote this concept? Why not pick 'undergoer'?